here im going to write my thoughts about p2 as i play it :D i have a list of expectations and things ive had spoiled, im told all of that is not even the Tip of the iceberg... hoping to play at the same time as my bestie. i painted my nails bloodred for the occasion 😏 ill sign all updates to this page with a timestamp and hopefully spruce up the presentation of it later..!!!!! sososo excited. im sleepy now
04/10 03:34
btw my timezone is gmt-4 / edt 🕺💃 sorry if you didnt know this and wanted to retain a certain mysterious fog around that but i figure it'd be good to note for th future.............. im SO sleepy but im also exploding with excitement idk how ill sleep. ive dreamt abt p2 gameplay a total of 7 times (possible a couple more times i havent noted all of em properly). SO excited. so so so so excited
played through the intro and day 1, up until around 5 am of day 2 - playtime: 6.6 hours
04/11 03.22 - Intro & Day 1
AAAAA?????? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA??????? DONT EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN WITHMY THOUGHTS? UM? UMMM? ??? ? ?
04/11 04.44 - Intro & Day 1
it would seem i took 197 screenshots as i played day 1 until 5 am day2. help. i dont even know where to beginnnnnnnnnnn . we started playing at 8 pm. the opening is INSANELY GOOD i was NOT expecting it to be like that.. in fact just a couple hours before finally playing i was joking about how much i wish we could see the chessqueens Before the latter half of the game. Help. so much SO Much going on aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
opening scenes thoughts: i LOVE the allusion that the previous "failed run" couldve been p1. its SO SO SO insane that it just Opens implying the more meta elements, i didnt know "runs" were going to be anknowledged at all ?? its so cool to see mark both jokerfied and being a bit more blatant abt how meta aware he is. i LOVED seeing the other healers instantly in the audience its a very fun callback to p1s theatre opening :) a bit of a shame we dont get the cool p1 on stage argument again but i get that this is going for a somewhat different tone and feel. its SO much more jarring to open and get tossed into i love it. the KIDS in the hospital beds !!!!!!!!!!?!?!!?!? i spotted murky first im O_O
the guided walk through the dying invaded town was So insane its so good its so good. the MUSIC....... aspity saying aglaya doesnt love us and we shouldnt talk to her first....... unfortunately i did talk to her first cause i was so happy to see her. why does she say we've failed her..... why are we on first name basis......
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im glad we got to see block too.... the fact the other healers "weren't invited" to the cathedral?? the way all our arguments fail with block, the fact artemy didnt secure enough proof??? its all so so so insane i didnt expect any of it.... in classic your undisputed presence is enough to sway block.. maybe its the fact our bound all seem to be dead? does this game even have the bound system tho??? i didnt get to meet capella on day 1 cause the entire. structure of where you go for shelter is much different compared to p1.....
i actually reloaded in the first 10 mins cause i thought my not telling the random officer to let the people thatre being executed go would have consequences...... went back with seemingly no repercussions..... the amount of jerboas on the ground too What is going on.. i love the new nonbound designs
tutorial thoughts: i love that artemys restless dreams function as the tutorial its a Much more thorough and on-hand means of showing off the mechanics compared to p1. the heart exchange...... obsessed w the fellow traveller.. the bound shifting into tragedians and then Dying once we return ???? bos turokh crashing the train and then that turning out to not have been happened is so cool.. he Intervened symbolically.. the train driver later saying that he can sense how many passengers are onboard was really interesting. i think there was some dialogue with a worm that said a similar thing im Wondering if its related to that or if this guy just has. train psychic powers??
i accidentally skipped half of isidors letter 😢
general post-Actual Gameplay thoughts: new artstyle is very cool!!!!!!!!! i do prefer the p1 paintings so far but i looove that everything is much more densely decorated and cared for. the shops are really cool :)
overall the town feels much much lonelier in this version? cant tell if its a deliberate choice, a theme of artemys route (as classic also had that feeling), a side effect of the layout being redone and thus unfamiliar, or caused by the sound design being quite a bit more empty sounding..
the writing is also in a completely different style, it feels like the old Difficult to decipher dialogue only shows up when mark is around (though i have yet to meet the kains. or yulia. or aglaya properly LOL im sure it'll pick up once the plot gets to em)
the new structure of it really makes it feel like it will be impossible to get all quests and bonus dialogue content, i already definitely missed a few non-thoughts and couldnt complete some of the thoughts (BECAUSE, time doesnt stop when you leave off on dialogue screens? it would seem? i thought it was a pause like in p1. i left it there while texting. SAD)..... the way it discourages reloading is really really cool too i like it a lot. new save system is Very fun
i love the new and altered mechanics so far!!!! the status feels much more comprehensive. the new quest (thoughts??) system is veeeery cool i feel like it lets one quest lead into the other much much more seamlessly.. unfortunately the fact artemy is internally very short w his words Bleeds into how smaller-feeling this system is structured :( i wanted to hear more of his inner voice sososo much :( the line where he called himself like a kitten was SO funny why did he say that!!!!!!!!!!!!
the inventory system feel Muuuch tighter and harder to manage but i really really like it its cool!!!! i am carrying so many trinkets constantly !!!! wondering if daniil will have more space cause he has his massive bag? .. does he even that actually i didnt see him holding it in the pantomime Nor meeting him at rubins. uh oh!!!
i LOVE the knew looting system and i love the furniture design and sfx :)
is there no letters system?? thatd be a very interesting thing to remove
the meeting-bound system is very very peculiar, i really like artemys besties being listed as Bones.. the same as the tinctures from the tutorial dreams.. so curious how thats gonna pan out. it was SO funny seeing clara and then daniil be immediately classified under "nerves" like YES they are on his nerves >:) oh my GOD the first meeting with daniil was so funny he is the worst. i hate him. i love how artemy & daniil do outright instantly not respect eachother in this version the exchanges were very entertaining. and CLARA i got Jumpscared by seeing clara in the shelters upstairs jfdlg;sjglkdj im so glad shes as ominous and weird as she should be
the new map is sooooo cool i really like seeing it updated for modern ui designs + changed layout.. i expected it to be the same..!!! i really like how important buildings dont get named and marked until you meet the associated bound, i did feel like classic having permanent markers across all routes spoiled a lot of first meetings Way back when i started playing p1. i like it :)
the dialogue options marking which one is conversation ending is extremely extremely useful and Necessary for how this game doesnt allow savescumming....... Obsessed
notkin being so short actually made me Burst out laughing. murky was there it didnt let me say hi to her :( !!!!!! seeing that lika is a returning character was a Very pleasant surprise.. so far p2 feels like a heavily edited "revised" version of p1. all the new elements like apple basket and the extended herb bride lore are very welcome
on the topic of the brides and how theyre handled... its very strange to see that the racism that was embedded in p1 has been both somewhat improved upon in some departments, and made worse in others?? why can artemy nearly constantly have the choice to say "i wish i was never part of this culture" hello????? i also feel weird abt that bride that kept saying "will you have me?" over and over its obviously going to mean something else entirely but.. euughhh???.. a shame its still riddled with these kinds of problems..
what else hmmmm. i was completely surprised by how brutal the bride burning scene was agghh. it was already horrifying in classic wo screams..... the lady jumping off the termitary too :( so much. that cutscene was structured interestingly.. it had so much shocking content so early on but it didnt feel like its going for shock value..?? its interesting how you dont see the women being chased in the streets anymore, you only see the after effects o_o and on shocking content one of the nonbound kids mentioned abortions which is Not a word ive ever seen in a game before. very interesting
i DIED several times 🥳 got knocked simply unconscious a few times and then got my first actual death with post death Situations i was losing my mind? i didnt expect it to be. Like that? i had hints of it spoiled but Dude..............................
its interesting that artemy called the three of them all "doctors" rather than healers..... clara with a phd Who will die...... AND the closure as to why artemy isnt considered a degree haver/bachelor as well is fascinating. i really loved that dialogue where he talks abt what he specializes in. the broken heart theme being a cover of p1's factus est was sooooo mcuh fun im!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i definitely definitely have more thoughts and thoughts and thoughts but im getting quite sleepy. i will follow this up with more of my immediate thoughts Soon..... so far none of the changes from classic are unwelcome/incorrect
04/11 5.00 - Intro & Day 1
i LOVE the amount of callbacks to p1 + lines thatre outright the same as p1 its SO muchfun and i am treasuring the fact i didnt start w p2 More than ever....... it would seem this version of the story is more welcoming to people that are looking to get into the game Mostly because it has an intense multilayered metanarrative, rather than because theyre interested in the plot/mechanics, which is the one thing that ive been saying like Dont get into p1 if thats all youre interested in, there the meta stuff is a really fun Reward for putting in the time to understand everything else..... if you go into p1 wanting just the meta you will be deeply disappointed as that all hinges on manipulating and philosophizing abt the player-healer rship, which is also character specific....... what im saying is we shouldnt sell these as "Like Deltarune!!!!" lets leave a barrier between types of metanarrative heavy games. but p2 is more welcoming of deltarune fans
04/11 5:06 - Intro & Day 1
ALSO. BIG VLAD SOUNDED LIKE THE PROFESSOR FROM SUBLUSTRUM TO ME??? ARTEMYS NEW VOICE ALSO SHOCKED ME I DIDNT EXPECT IT TO BE LIKE THAT....... everyone is SO much more british.......
04/11 05:14
OK LAST POST FOR NOW: I WAS SOOOOOOO DELIGHTED THAT THIS WAS KEPTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
04/11 05.47 - Intro & Day 1
i really like that we finally get info on artemys mom but its even sadder than i thought :(
one thing i really really liked seeing is that the graveyards rep is "youre always welcome here" pleading_face angel girl grace...... so excited to meet her waaaa
04/11 06.19 - (inbetween)
i REALLY miss the lil animation bob walking had in p1...... its fine without it and the extended arms animations more than make up for it but it is a bit sad to see it go !!!!! i felt like it added a sprinkling of heart to p1..
the bound feel more part of the town in this so far. in p1 their models level of quality stook out compared to the nonbound so over time it felt like there was this Rift between npc types? vs here the nonbound designs have been so much further developed + the bound redesigns Match their style theres less discrepancy. i Lov it. i also love how theres different outfit(?)+ hair color variants of the same type of nonbound its soooo good
im somewhat disappointed by the meeting with sticky. "hey see you around" is much less impactful than finding him IN the room of the murder and finding out he sneaks into bizarre places :( he belongs on the table smiling goofily!!!
also it looks like victoria sr got more surviving past death developments ? the mouseover text on the mistresses graves is vvvv interesting & im excited to visit em..
04/11 12.46 - (inbetween)
i dreamt that saving was represented as pinecones irl????
i miss aglaya already. SO curious if the romance w her / the players intervention was kept cause the intro thing was so much being thrown at you i couldnt decipher it......
04/12 01.19 - (inbetween)
i miss the chessqueens So Much bro!!!!! im wondering how the changed elements are gonna pan out..... theres so much i dont have confirmed still like. is clara still a newborn?? did daniil arrive at isidors request?? the fact artemy isnt considered a true menkhu is a Very interesting change cause his p1 intro Immediately introduces that thats something deeply important about him that'll define his path. honestly between his new questionable attitude towards his own culture and the fact he needs to earn his title im a bit worried that maybe becoming the foreman isnt his intended fate anymore??
apart from that Problem i am very happy that artemy still definitely Feels like the old one :)
another thing, i like how you have to "unlock" the clocks in bound's homes. i didnt see a clock in rubins i hope one shows up once we patch things with him...... if we can still do that agghhh. is it possible to LOSE access to shelter and saving?? are the bound relationships that malleable.... i hope theyre still classified as bound i really really loved that system.....
04/12 03.05 - Day 2
STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF PLAYING AS I TYPE THIS I JUST MET MURKY AND IM. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANGEL CLARA IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!!!!!! I PLAYED CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!! WAAGGHH :( :( :( :( :( :(
04/12 03.14 - Day 2
MURKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
played through day2! stopped at around 3am of day 3 - playtime: 3.5 hours (total: 10.1) ⬆ last two entries were written in this session💃
04/12 06.08 - Day 2 - way before dawn of Day 3
this game is Evil helphelp help i dont know if its cause i died and thats making things harder on me or if my quest order was incorrect? or something? but isidors house was Terrifying (not enough to actually scare me but AUUUGHHHH ANGUISH) and the ENTIRE earth quarter got infected as soon as i exited. i thought i could go without taking the protective gear from in there (clara was also there clara my friend who is like a weird ghost thats haunting me?) and i was so mistaken Duuuude. it was so difficult to make it out of that quarter. the blocked exits. daniils rudeness i hope he got stuck in that house. actually i dont hope that cause im gonna play as him someday and that quest sounds horrific. i do hope it a little cause artemy hates him and im on artemys side. Bachelor Whatever
ok more In Order thoughts abt todaysgameplay: i love this game so much. it feels Very difficult to manage time and im definitely struck by the same p1 feeling of knowing im playing thru the peaceful Pre Plague days that will not last long...... theres already sooooo much to do i bet ive missed so muchalready. im Already excited to replay and find out what else is going on preplague.......
meeting rubin was WORSE than i expected i honestly regretted entering his house like as i was about 2 go up the steps cause i was afraid maybe. he would have guards there or jail me ?? or attack me?? it ended up being such an insane dialogue i was laughing at how absurd hes acting. also the Uhhh fact he does not respect the kin but is fully devoted to isidors teachings of TRADITIONAL MEDICINE what is going on there. horrible. ugh.
i did like the line "youre not cub anymore" like To You im not. to lara and grief (mytrue besties idc) i still AM
soooo much else ok capella!!!!! was such a fun visit!!! the doll burial in her backyard 0_0 !!!!!?!?! yulia on her balcony!!!! the dialogue with her felt quite different from how she treated artemy in p1?? interesting how she plays mother w all the kids too. it definitelydefinitely is better at conveying the power she holds in organizing the towns kids MUCH better than p1 cause There it was just like.. stray dialogue abt how much they like her ve here theyre her little messengers..... following her like ducklings. Obsessed!!!!!!
also. capellas dialogue about her brother breaking off from her dads methods being treated as this horrible thing thats tearing apart the family. sure was?????? Hello ?? i know shes a rich little girl but holy shit. i still dont know if vlad jrs efforts are like Good and wellmeaning but they sure sounded. way better than bigvlads. Dude. i met vladjr too he was kinda underwhelming. sad pathetic man. he was so manipulative and a different kind of pathetic in p1, very very interesting change.
also back at the pub i couldnt talk to andrei :( and i realized earlier while thinking abt the pub that theres like. an entire side of the upper floors seating that straight up cannot view the dancer. i thought that was the Point. its so funny. i really love the old salamander motif being reused on the railing. dyou think he got those custom made....
GRAAACE IM WORRIED ABOUT GRACE!!!! i dont want her to waste her life o_o?? opening her huts door to see she lives Underground was startling. very eerie. the situation with isidor was so interesting..... wondering if i messed up by not uncovering the body but i did definitely accept taking on the inheritance correctly. i believe. its so cool to see shes called sahba more often :) missed her tons even if it hasnt been that long since the intro..... its interesting that her rship w temy has been changed from classic too. i didnt really like the crush situation there? it was a bit funny in clara route i suppose.
and!! what is up with her saying isidor Created her....... is it cause of how he handled the previous outbreak?? (did the outbreak start the Moment artemy left town?? if it was 5 years ago and heleft exactly 5 years ago instead of p1s 10..... does that also mean he left at 21 instead of 16?) or did he Literally craft her somehow...... veryvery very interesting. i wonder if she shares the same connection with clara still....
MURKY BABY!!!!! MY ANGEL!!!! IM SO UPSETTTT SHES SO TINY AND SO GRUMPY IMSO UPSET FOREVER......... ireally loved seeing her associated w herbs again im DEEPLY glad we can still collect them when theyre out Hiding in the grass....... the dream of the kids was really good khan is so short?? taya is Microscopic i was so surprised????!??!?!!??!?
i LOVED the tinctures tutorial *_* ...... its so.. the albino doll as a standin for isidor.. he sounds so stern yet kind.... i really enjoy the new tinctures system! it seems tough to use in practice but it looks like this games gonna have more going to peoples houses upon their request to help cure them rather than the previous Cure random npcs for a rep boost and nothing else systems.... sticky near that table Jumpscared me im SO so so glad we got a similar to him being on the table moment :) artemy calling him catlike and "his familiar" . weeping weeping weeping. catboy count: 2
really loved that quest about exchanging feelings with the townsfolk too..... the heart exchange from the intro feels very similar to it.. was it a tradition of symbolic heart exchange that got watered down or something like that.. very intrigued. i love how much love has been mentioned so far a couple of them made me almost weepy? murky said something like that too im so. aaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shovelling rocks into my mouth
ALSO it looks like my friend and is routes diverged . i dont know How . i dont know what this will result it but im already Witnessing how replayable this version of the story seems. p1 Needs to be replayed for the full effect but its suuuuuch a time sink its difficult.. so so so excited for what else happens :) i really wanted to make some jokey doodles aboutthings ive encountered so far but havent been able to cause of issues w my tablet.... hopefully will get it sorted soon and add things here :D
04/12 06.15 - Day 2 - way before dawn of Day 3
I TOOK 156 MORE SCREENSHOTS..... IN LOVE WITH THE VISUALS + SOOO MANY NOTEWORTHY PIECES OF DIALOGUE
ALSO forgot to mention i did try visiting khan i love the new stoneyard.. the cathedral and polyhedron look like theyre in comflict.. i saw a kid that had been scared up a stairway 2 heaven its Really cool to see the nonbounds interact with !!! the actual town structures!!!!! its all woven so well together....
04/12 06.24 - Day 2 (inbetween play sessions)
WAIT ALSO: i saw clara at the cemetary too...... im wondering how meeting her is triggered and if its already multiples of her...... she is so ghostly and rude and weird :)
04/12 15.44 - (inbetween)
the more i think on it the less sense rubins new mindset works? i was excited for more/alternate burakh family drama but this is .....?? apart from the patricide situation he considers himself isidors true son and therefore the rightful heir cause artemy "abandoned" the town (when it seems it was isidors insistence that send him off. :\) (also its only been 5 years. much less of a blow?) but he doesnt. respect the..... burakh family heritage...... apart from the medicinal aspect.....? why does he want to be anknowledged as an heir of isidor when he hates the community that isidor helped lead??? hello???? i dont understand how this was seen as an acceptable change 😐 nor how it will make sense at all in the long run??
04/12 16:16 - Day 2 (inbetween)
obsessed w the route progression order all the time: if the sequence of artemy ➡ daniil culminates as "learn to love and be loved by the town" ➡ "learn to hate the town" im going to be so upset. itd suit them but having the players first meeting with the town be good then bad (vs bad then good in p1) is much more brutal @_@
04/12 16:53 - (inbetween)
wondering if vlad jr is configured as a utopian?? is he bound to daniil properly.. can clara still sway him.. hes one of the characters i care the least about but the issue where his plot related death could lock you out of dankos ending in p1 is forever really great
04/12 22.14 - (inbetween)
going thru my screenshots a bit while busy because i Cant stop thinking about this game.....
extremely silly part of the murky scene. i love him so much.
im 🥺🥺🥺😭🥺😭😭🥺🥺🤧🤧 ...... calling her grumpy.... is it the townsfolk starting to love artemy cause of the exchanges thats making her wonder about this or is it the twyre speaking to her..... im so upset....
accidentally gave him a little hat. it actually startled me lol
04/13 00.35 - (inbetween)
WAIT IFORGOT NOTKIN!!!! IM SO SORRY KIDDO catboy count: 3
04/13 01.40 - (inbetween)
going thru ALL screenshots in order (days 1-2 so far) heres some commentary :)
really upset over this clara dialogue option. the termites were dead here :( .........
from the opening walk through the almost dead town.. is this measle and thrush?? i found out these are infact a teensy and tot..
i like this new grief characterization... i havent re-met him after day1 i forgot to drop by💔 im very curious what his connection to humility will be under these circumstances. in p1 he was just like.... insane and out of control but in a super fun gay way (also he was way older back then?) vs here if hes just trying to Appear as a big fish..... very very curious
FREAK WITH TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weeping and crying and dying
fascinated by this exchange and a bit inlove with the concept... wondering if it connects to the Um death situations which i got on this same day lol
really great exchange. artemy suggesting that asking for help when dying is emotional/embarrassing/unlike him. Great
really like the rune-y pattern on this ladys sleeve.. felt wrong to crop out sticky
ilove artemy so so much.
i turned him into a cat sorry
i had this EXACT thing happen on my first night as daniil in p1 but i cant find the screencap!!!!!!!
really obsessed with how you have the option to end the death dialogue with THIS
OH I FORGOT TO SAY ANYTHING ABT THIS IT MADE ME LOSE MY MIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT IS GOING ONNNN. IT DIDNT LET ME SEE THE OTHER HEALERS ON STAGE :(
DO WE NOT GET TO SEE IIIITTTTTTT
GOD
th callback to the p1 doll funeral..... the fact we find out the "eighth" is artemys udurgh.. is this confirmation of who was being buried in p1??!?!??!?!? ive always always wondered abt that
NO YOU DONT BESTIE!!!!!!!! YOUR PROPHETIC DREAMS SO FAR HAVE BEEN INSANE + IVE PLAYED AS CLARA I KNOW WHAT BEING TORMENTED BY VISIONS IS LIKE
dear gravel :)
??? whats going on here hello???? i dont think this was a concern of artemys in classic????? whatever. i hope its aglaya
i LOVE that he could hate music if we so choose
i really like that she faces the wall in these jumpscare-y meetings. a lot like the sister in p1 changeling route..
i love this exchange..
04/12 06.10 - Day 3
i was in the middle of playing but got, really insanely stressed to a degree thats probably bad for me and Then got my second death. the new consequence made me almost burst into tears for real upon reading SO i took a break .
played through day3 until ~4am day4, died a second time and couldnt go on playing - playtime: 4.1 hours (total: 14.2)
04/13 07.30 - Day 3
i hate this game (said with both respect and extreme hurt) i feel like ive yet to explore the town and map really.. i know from p1 that i need to be constantly moving in order to get enough done but it feels like. nothing i do is enough ? survival is unendingly difficult and the map feels even more confusing than p1s, i had that one almost fully down in just a handful of daniils days.. it feels like i still havent even stepped into half the districts seriously..
i got my bull i love him :)
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i also met the travellers shop i Really love the situations there....... no idea whats up truly but its insanely cool. super useful shop!!!
the second pantomime using the sidewings(??) of the theatre was Really fun i adore when irl plays use those effectively...... supersuper super fun and the healers trying to prove themselves to eachother w their achievments was very funny but they werent even, looking at eachother? i think its more like theyre trying to convince the audience or town as a wholeof their deserving to be there..
i tried to do the applebasket road quest but my earth being infected threw off basically half my quests. i tried to like duck and dive in to catch rubin + the house permit thingy but it stressed me out Inordinately + i couldnt progress any of the quests at all?? i ended up reloading to before i entered the infected district because the evil evil evil placements of the plaguesoot was so. unavoidable. Horrifying.
the fact that in the end All Three of artemys bestfriends make extremely unacceptable comments about "you and your kind" has completely blindsided me. it is just. horribly disrespectfully written...... -_-
this exchange where we see artemys affection for her wouldve been really great if she wasnt uh????? super hateful???? what is going on.
the kids wishing for trains was a reallycool concept but i didnt have time to complete the rest of it...... artemy being quite onboard with going along w the kids games is great but theres so much going on constantly. i feel like ive dillydallied way way too much!!!!!!
i got this??? quest marker glitch??? i havent even been to marias side of the crucible yet i assume its not relevant until much later....??
i met viktor also i lov him tons :) surprised his outfit is even more plain?? the fact he really wants khan back home.. also he was floating on his desk a bit for me
i left the stoneyard to go go help notkin + acouple other chores in that quarter and i was informed i have to go back and find daniil, who, apparently, was extremely fine with the fact a kid was dying so thats. great. notkins friend/initiate getting sick was Really scary i was worried id hurt the poor kid :( and now im worried that the childrens gangs will both need help all the time and im going to be struggling to provide it . deeply deeply scared. its interesting to see clara stand by and weep in places of suffering.....
sticky trying so hard to prove to artemy hes useful and should be kept was both so silly andso. :( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! artemys interested in looking out for all three fully not looked out for kids so far i think he will be ok but hes SO worried im so upset!!!!!!!!!
aspity showing up everywhere the exact same ghostly way as clara is so..
on my way Back to the stoneyard i had so many scheduling issues i reloaded. daniil wasnt in the stillwater (nor was eva)? and then it turns out the bell rings at a specific time and you gotta follow it anyway so !!!!!!!?!!??!?! i did that . the tragedians guiding you on EVERY path was insanely cool and like. gutting????? really great music. it was so scary. the town feels so much more controlled by the theatricians in this game......
the town hall meeting felt a bit like Nothing like.. all the leaders were in one place but artemy not having been invited was so rude. and makes it feel like theyre just as hopeless against the disease as i am . Great !!!!!!!! i did enjoy seeing katerina tag along i was wondering when we meet her.. strange none of the mistresses in training were there aswell tho??
i spent like. Hours and hours trading and collecting thrown out objects trying to get a decent amount of food and trinkets to survive At Least the next day but two guys pulled knives on me at once and i died so horribly..... the gameover for your second death upset me very Very much!!!!!! what was taken was something i really wish p1 had!!!!! i hadnt even gotten a single scene that involves that!!!!!!!! upset forever. i was so crushed i messaged myfriends about it and it turns out some of them fully reversed this death consequence internally upon getting it and im. @_@ debating doing that...... i was told it doesnt come up as often as im expecting it to so im wondering if its even worth cheating for..... i wanted to go in cheat free but this is literally too much. extremely painful. im definitely getting the intended levels of stress and anguish at the very least .
04/13 08.46 - (inbetween)
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04/13 09.15 - (inbetween)
im near regretting having played p1 first if only because im completely familiar with all bound thanks to it, and in this game it looks like imgonna have to juggle taking care of ALL BOUND Not just the termites. im attached to so many and would be deeply sad if anything happened to them . seeing notkins infected already worries me so much
04/13 13.44 - (inbetween)
the way the deaths are part of the story explains how there could be more than one changeling at the same time.......
04/13 18.36 - (inbetween)
decided im definitely reducing the difficulty, id love to come back to imago in a future run but for now the stress of it is causing me intense irl pain even when Not playing the game 😔.. this IS what i wanted out of p1 im glad its been made into an option 💔 im simply x_x
i think im gonna roll with the two deaths too. talked it over more w friends and the fact death is interwoven with the plot is too much fun to override on my first run...... im.... just gonna cry if theres a "[feature i lost]" button thats been blacked out in a future scene. Especially if it involves the kids. artemy claiming thats not even really his style is :( like im picky w that kind of thing too but this is his home.. hes in charge of children.. the implication he mightve lost it for life and not just the duration of the play is also so so so upsetting to me. im really into the concept of there being no actual past and no actual future of the town, its all just the characters being assigned backdrops to adhere to etc, so i know there will be no town past our 12 days in it. but. :(
on a similar meta-ish place of viewing the characters from, (i say this alot everywhere but im typing it here aswell) im really onboard with the disparity between healer+bound actions, personality and path per p1 route being partially influenced by whether or not our healer, the catalyst through which we engage with this world, cares for them. things like eva not dying for artemy because shes one of the least of his concerns.. so thru that lens of expecting the following p2 routes to upend certain things or lack details that're important to artemy, im, wondering if daniil is still going to be this much of a prick in the other routes? the current impression i get is that artemy just has zero respect for him and his intense pride but is.... he fully like that in his own pov? what about things like claras hauntings and the kids immediate trust of artemy.. im SO curious im so excited. i hope clara is haunted by her sister(s) even before the day shes supposed to finally meet her à la p1
04/14 02.47 - (inbetween)
thinking of the town hall dialogue. if daniil has his degree and artemy doesnt. and daniils only a couple years older (assuming p1 ages, which were calculable with ingame info, if i could find the one daniil nonbound dialogue) then did the war thats hindering artemys graduation break out just a year or two ago ? or is it a case of the ptb going "he went to medical school" "which school 🤨" "medical school!!!!!!"
its very interesting to hear daniil specializes in vaccines? that sounds new.. time will tell if he can even make it
another thing ive been thinking about since the start. gorkhons water being deeply polluted cause of the factories is such a sad change :( it makes total sense.. but i do prefer p1s reveal of it beings isidors fault. the rivers of blood.. but im also very glad we get to see more of isidor and harder proof of the impact he had on this world :) its a good tradeoff. just cant swim in the river anymore 😢
04/14 03.09 - (inbetween)
OH SOMETHING I MEANT TO WRITE HERE THE OTHER DAY AND FORGOT. STILL ON THE TOPIC OF DANIIL. artemy saying "bachelor whatever" when he definitely caught his name was 200% payback for daniil getting his name wrong repeatedly And then daniil did not even notice. itsso funny.
the bit abt hospitality being a family tradition makes me weep inth context of both papa and eldest son burakh letting sticky stay in the lab. Upset
04/14 14.12 - (inbetween)
obsessed w this.
ALSO there was a stray dialogue option where he mentioned being an insomniac and i FORGOT to screencap it but i treasure it. sleepless sleepy guy..........
played the start of day4 until its early afternoon, too sleepy to go on, also i spent about an hour idling on the pause screen cause i was busy getting medicine irl - playtime: 3.8 hours (total: 18)
04/15 04.03 - morning-afternoon of Day4
AUUGHGHH AUGH i lowered the difficulty to larva and the definitely easier level of surviving means im not struggling to breathe irl anymore as i play which is muchbetter. but its still SO stressful. i CANT do half the things i want and the early morning where im starving + my quests havent started yet is THE worst . got attacked by a couple guys and it made me actually yelp irl (not quite in fear? more in surprise? fear for Artemys life. i really cant let him die again ☹) and then the early morning messenger that lunged at me also terrified me. great!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HYSTERICAL i obviously chose the last option. a baby?
i REALLY like the capella piano quest. my immediate thought was "oh its clara. she woudl do this" but im really curious how it will pan out.... the piano music itself is very sublustrum esque.. specifically the time pausing segments.. i really really like that theres more of victoria sr embedded in the towns dna in this version. felt like there wasnt enough of her in p1
its interesting that theres much much more music and audio focus in this game too. the pianos and grammophones..... felt like there were none of those in p1....!!! i really like it. it makes the town feel a touch more modern than p1s town but im not sure if thats accurate given the vague historical info. maybe they just didnt know how to model a nice piano previously
pictured: artemys reluctance to accept capellas invitation to her termites-only amongus server
rubin also went back to calling artemy cub >:) cant stop winning *is doing Horrible in this game* if that was meant to be something that resulted from the apple basket regroup im So sorry guys i was busy dying and losing another piece of artemys heart lastnight Sorry. ill come back for you in a different playthrough
this poster in townhall....... is it aglaya....... the lungs..... also i just now noticed the shovel lizard while cropping that. wonderful beast.
i love artemy terribly. worlds most exhausted sarcastic grumpy sweethearted man
this is for sure the humbles right...... Scared.... its only day 4 have they started being judged one by one Already.. havent heard a mention of the saburovs taking in clara yet?
i dont get why its now spelled "tagloor" btw i thot it was "taglur" ..
weeping at the soft spot these two hold for eachother. extremely silly. i did look into this quest and :( artemy worrying that he failed lara/the townsfolk by discovering that the barrelwater is in fact impotable is so...... it wouldnt have been safe for them to drink like. i bet the consequences for Not informing daniil and/or going ahead and giving lara the barrel wouldve been much worse. i DONT want her to get infected im already struggling to take care of the kids . AUGH!!!
AND and. while still at the shelter i was going to be so upset at lara for not giving me the food she promised But then it turned out to just be in the last cupboard i thought to check and ooooooooohhhhh the relief that washed over me seeing the amount of food she left. indescribable. this game is a nightmare.
the hospital chores - townhall payment being given as a daily thing to do is an easy (for now.) source of income thats desperately needed Cause like. the only consistent means of making money so far has been killing muggers butkilling them is so risky thats where ive died twice. it Terrifies me!!! the only money ive gotten from a quest has been the inheritance aspity gave me and selling most of my tradeable things out of desperation.......... struggling.... Suffering
it finally clicked to me that our healer doesnt pick up stray items off the ground anymore like the p1 ones did. im definitely feeling that. i would always get stay bracelets or flowers or nuts and i can Feel their absence. Suffering constantly
this quest was limited to sections of the knots? i think? but it worries me that "middle town" might refer to the knots as a whole now. i really loved the quarter names in p1 itd be such a shammmeee for them to have been newly rescinded. SAD.
obsessed forever
i did end up finding the baby and Oooooohhhhhhhhh my god seeing who was watching over it? has so far been the biggest anti-reward for having played pathy1 beforehand. the absolute horror that washed over me seeing her there . UGH!!!!! (i ran in there immediately upon hearing it cry and didnt have my inventory budgeted correctly so i reloaded to go back and do that Better Prepared im so going to catch plague if i dont reload. i simply need to make sure that kids FAR away from her aaaaaauuuuuuuugggggghhhhh)
04/15 04.07 - morning-afternoon of Day4 (inbetween)
forgot to paste this here too. hes practising his lines........ didnt want to crop out the bizarre teeth frame i got sorry. its funny.
04/15 22.06 - (inbetween)
in p1 you could just write off mark being Like That to the fact hes blond. now you have to actually ponder whats up with him
04/15 23.27 - (inbetween)
so far part of my mindset with making it through this game has been "gotta make it thru this insanity to get a decent ending. there HAS to be a good payoff for all this" and then i realized there might Not be a decent payoff as part of the game pulling the rug out from under you constantly. so for now my goals are just get more sweet interactions with the kids and meet aglaya my wife aglaya.
on the topic of aglaya. i recalled that her first haruspex route quest was sending him off to catch plague Which. I am not thrilled about ! also scared of her being added to my met-people list and therefor being able to be at risk of infection/DYING im so scared. i hope if you die inbetween meeting her she realizes its a different artemy. i Really hope shes still wildly selfaware
04/15 23.44 - (inbetween)
whatd be REALLY insane if she recognizes that between the part of the intro where we met her and now (day7 when i reach it) ive been replaced twice. id lose my mind if thats the case.
04/16 01.44 - (inbetween, about to play more)
imagining artemys heart in marks hands as if it is a potato and he has got a peeler
played day 4 until midnight, idled for about 1.5-2 hours cause i got busy getting dinner and medicine - playtime: 4.5 hours (total: 22.5)
04/17 00.22 - Day 4 afternoon-night
i wound up too sleepy to play lastnight 😴 finally played some tonight. it was both so good AND so bad i felt like i got a lot done? budgeted my time right and gave away tons of tinctures to people at risk? but notkin died at midnight :( . im so upset. im gonna reload the evening and try and give him something stronger its Deeply unfair to have a bound die so early. cant go on without him.
bull toys :) i accidentally headed to a spot kids were gathering at instead of one of the shops i was aiming for and found a bunch of toys around the house.. the house itself looked so.. i had some sort of menuglitch where everything but the music, animations and health problems Froze on me and i couldnt do anything. so i had to reload, do everything over and fix the projector later.....
amongus spotted
INCREDIBLE scene i recognized the lantern pattern as part of the p1 map thingys :....) really love artemys responses here..
Spotted. i had been wondering what "marblenest" refers to.. also her saying the steppe is a mother to him but sister to her is very interesting but i.... doubt thats something thats kept consistent within the brides lore
EVERY time i see murky im so delighted im so worried for her and imso glad to see her safe. BUT. SHE WAS SITTING OUT IN THE SOOT MIASMA????
YOU CANT REALLY TELL IN THE PIC BUT ITS NOT SAFE FOR HER OUT HERE........... KIDDO........ :( shes so small :( and doesnt want to love us.......
🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺........................
the following scene in the lair was Absolutely horrifying. not a fan. its very cool that the plague is personified and following us along in a weird semi-dream situation but uhmmmmmm..... Not like this............ the riddle artemy tries posing after visiting the sick notkin is also so .??? hes trying so hard to look tough to it when both he and i know we are going to almost get everyone killed
im Endlessly delighted by artemys goofs with the kids. this game is a constant nightmare but its literally worth it for how sillysweet these interactions are
love this. it IS unfair. talking to notkin was horrifying im not used to sick bound being bandaged up...... i didnt give him a strong enough tincture i Gotta go back and try better @_@ the rest of the soul and a halves running around town trying to map the infection like they did in p1 Except this time artemys scolding them is reallyreally great
i KNEW it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! her saying shes getting paid for this isreally funny i so Hope thats true for her route
its a bit absurd that the truth about this pianos situation is the only pro/anti immortal soul evidence on earth in capellas eyes but ehm. i guess thats how 15 yo mysticism obsessed girls are....??
capella having info on murkys parents also :( .....
imposter behavior 🤨🤨 HIM ROBBING THE STORE IS SO FUNNY i initially didnt let him but on a reload i was curious so i let him try and. the loot was so much better ill just have to bear whatever consequences follow......... hoping we can help this kid live a normal life after All This. hes so interested in everything temy has to say + seems like a really good listener... wondering when he'll start chasing the albino
the dialogue with rubin just keeps making the new way hes written worse and worse but this was so funny.
i DID save the baby aswell!!!! waagghh. it seems thats some sort of recurring miniquest/moral dilemma @_@..
i dropped by saburovs for his quest but then didnt redo it on my reload annnddddd the info on captain tycheek is interesting..... is he not dead in this game..... oyun being called isidors friend is also interesting. no clue how this is gonna pan out but i hope we can get into the termitary+abattoir Soon ?? im curious what the abattoirs layout is like inthis..
haunted by the fact the alembic takes real time to brew things rather than ingame time....... will have to plan out how im gonna save notkin much differently becuase of this . auuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
04/17 00.37 - (inbetween)
ALSO ALSO. yesterday igot a few loading screens with what seems to be a brain item 🥰🥰 SO excited for prionlogic
04/17 20.29 - (inbetween)
realized that the polyhedron being newly established as built only ~5 years ago makes much more sense than p1s 10 years ago. in p1 the stamatwins having been just 18ish when they arrived in town and Built the entire thing after what had to have been only 1-3 years of studying architecture Uh. didnt really add up timeline wise (also it was deeply weird. for the 18-9 yos to be as in love with the 35+ yo nina as theyre mentioned to have been 😐) theres still a bit of a question of exactly When they graduated And Then had all that time to get banned in several countries if theyre only 28 (same with daniils graduation questions sortof) but this makes much more sense. and makes the fact artemy missed all these new events in town by a much thinner margin even sadder
04/19 20.26 - (inbetween, hoping to play tonight)
thinking of rubin after seeing p1 posts of his prosectorium........ i miss when he was in the warehouses........... if hes not on great terms with grief anymore it wouldve made that much funnier. im glad he has his own great looking house but i really Really liked that p1 had implied he lived with isidor/followed isidors living arrangements (iirc they would go out deep into the steppe for days at a time and stay there on occasion) .... removing that and mangling rubins rship to the burakhs is very. :( !!!
i seriously dont get what was up with rubin saying he "slept like a dog by isidors side" + accepting brutal living conditions or whatever cause that does Not sound like how isidor treated anyone??? it sounded like rubin did that to himself for fun. isidor took care of the children (possibly giving sticky a place to stay often. weeping) and was boy bestfriends with the towns ruler you Know he was taking good care of all of his students. i think rubin has a little bit of a persecution complex on top of all his brand new horrific issues. if he has his own place why on earth was he sticking by isidor 24/7 with little sleep. i Highly doubt thats something isidor requested of him. and why is he so loyal to him if he doesnt respect like ANYTHING about him arrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhhh give me the p1 rubin who was isidors Other Son back
04/20 01.08 - (inbetween)
04/20 01.45 - (inbetween, about to play)
i very briefly mentioned this day 1 dialogue in a previous entry, but it just hit me: is he a trauma surgeon...........
played day 4s night repeatedly in my attempts to save notkin, could NOT make it, had to reload a few other times, left off at 1 pm of day 5. got up to do some laundry a couple times - playtime: 3.5 hours (felt like more???) (total: 26)
04/20 06.59 - end of day 4, day 5 morning-noon
started typing this at 05.20 LOL got sidetracked midtyping + have more to say but im getting sleeby
i tried really hard to re-time things and save notkin but i dont think theres anything i could do :( couldnt find better pills, Cannot budget my time better to brew things in the alembic on time without having to replay the entire day, i dont think the current brews i can make can even fully cure plague?, rolled his death like 5 times in a row. Crushing. im really really sorry kid :(
it felt like...... his death was entirely unceremonious too. hes just gone. i dropped by the fortress to pick up another map and they didnt even mention it..... you cant really tell hes absent..... its so. :(
this dialogue was very silly. artemy declaring how much he wants to keep the soul and a halves safe while calling them all sorts of Terms isso delightful. older brother behavior
met with "my" bride again, both by the graveyard before dawn and on my way out of the lair, and. Eugh. im glad its cleared up that shes not "ours" in some bizarre disrepectfully sexual way but did they really have to repeatedly have her say such terms up until now. i dont like the idea of killing any bride theyre friendly and important.. but im mostly just relieved this isnt taking a weird route. so far -_-.
caught aspitys reflection REALLY loved that dialogue..... what is Going on...... calling her not quite human while shes visibly infected for me. if shes clara/sandpest 1.0 then why did she get sick 🙄🙄!!!! her devotion to isidor is interesting.. if shes a byproduct-reminder of his efforts then the fact shes devoted to making sure traditions and history are kept alive is..
love this dialogue.......
saw peter at the hsopice too.. really like artemy saying the polyhedron sprouted/grew from the edge of the stoneyard.. i am the polyhedron flower fairytales #1 fan
the school dream was. ??!?!?!? i had some glitches and had to repeat it but it sure um. Was?
i like how inspecting laras dressers shows you that artemy now has a typical kid in town on gorkhons inventory.... very cool means of mini-foreshadowing/implying that before this dreams theme is directly shown
grown adult got put in the corner. i spotted the two claras instantly!!!!! love that!!!!!!!
love these really bad. at first i was excited to see lara taking care of the kids but this was delightfully messed up. is it like artemys school-stressdream and the towns plague insanity mixed together..??? a trusted figure turned cruel..
clara sneaking snacks in class. Literally.
the post-alembicbrew death(?)/plague(?) executor meeting Fully jumpscaerd me. get OUT of my workshop.
talking to sticky and murky makes me smile SO much that i forget that thisis a game about death and torment im just soso glad to see them safe and almost-happy :) and artemy really caring for them. im SO upset.
WEEPING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO I DONT TRUST CLARA!!!!!!!!!!!! WITH MURKY!!!!!!!!!! SHE LIED TO HER SO MUCH AND UPSET HER SOOO SO BAD IN P1 GO AWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. UNLESS SHES NOT EVIL ANYMORE BUT I DOUBT IT :(
laundry spotted 🥰💞
i got my third death here by running thru earth into a post-infected knots district but it was wildly unfair and entirely avoidable . got stabbed from behind while dealing with two other knifeguys. didnt even see the theatre visit + consequence cause i panic-closed the game 😔 im gonna have it reversed before i continue playing
stopped by the rod thinking its peters studio and i arrived just 20 mins before a related quest started? im assuming this quest connects to the one about murkys friend who doesnt like us.....
i like that both parts of the couple are revealed to feel like theyve completely failed their duties. katerinas especially was so good uugghhhhh i REALLY the proper introduction we're given to her..... the amount of locked doors and reflections in both wings..... the music for the rod is real great. i noticed the giant mural before the quest related ladies showed up to stare at it, is it meant to connect to nina and victorias theatre murals.... it doesnt quite look like katerina???..... i Really love how the visuals are structured to guide the players eye into realizing more and more things here in this quest. the placement of katerinas Tormented reflections surrounding her, leading you to inspect her cabinet that shows signs of her addiction, then you find the final one on her bed, then even after inspecting everything you find that you still cannot speak to katerina herself.. haunting. i prefer this introduction + further charactirization for her over p1!! it is so much fun!!! it emphasizes how much shes completely failing to follow in two separate womens footsteps much much better. the fact shes not a real mistress is probably a p1 spoiler but it really really works here...... i had been worried clara might not be a daughter anymore!!! i was talking abt this with a friend just the other day, cause i had noticed alexanders wing doesnt have claras dollhouse-y stairs and room anymore and it made me worry a Lot about what couldve been changed abt clara. very glad its implied shes still cherished as their savior + it is day5 and theyre NOT disowning her...... hoping this latter fact stays true for the next two routes 😬.
04/20 07.13 - (inbetween)
hang on huh. why is claras dialogue labelled with just "clara" .... daniils & the chessqueens' was their titles..... Huh......
04/20 10.19 - (inbetween)
its cruel of the theatricians to have me walk all the way out there Before Dawn ihave to make sure ive gotten enough sleep &im carrying enough medicine to make some rounds. gotta fend off at least two muggers per night. and then the play is just them discussing what a bad horrible cringefail healer i am? i dont even get to see my artemy on stage looking bewildered and sleepy????
04/20 11.20 - (inbetween)
if clara is kicked out on day5 of a subsequent route ill be deeply upset. theres still time for it to happen in this route i suppose x_x but if it ends up being something that doesnt happen in temys route, then within my healer-as-a-narrative-catalyst posting it could be that.. artemy being a protector of children saw the best in the saburovs taking her in and trusted them on it
04/20 12.12 - (inbetween)
the effect p1 haruspex route had on my psyche is since starting it last year, every time im in a moderately sized field/lawn/etc irl i instinctively scan for herbs. the effect of p2 haruspex route is every time i look at myself in the mirror im deeply aware of what kind of eyecontact im making and how i tilt my head
04/20 21.35 - (inbetween)
a more general entry i have been meaning to make for the past couple days but kept forgetting!: in comparing p1 and p2...... i briefly re-opened pathyclassics haruspex route the other day to count how many saves i had made during my full playthrough of all three routes (2105 total) and then went herb picking for a bit just for fun.... and i found myself not missing any p2 mechanics while playing p1, nor vice versa. the only thing i instinctively went for was the run button, but p1s walk speed - town size and layout ratio compared to p2 feels entirely different, im glad there isnt a run button in p1. theres a lot of tiny details i miss + im deeply aware of how certain story/character elements being changed is better or worse in either version of the story, but playing p2 has so far only solidified how much of a complete game p1 is. i have been saying this for Ages but i truly think pathyclassic is fully realized and worthwhile.
the save system being different between games Works and i cant commit to thinking one is better than the other. each works best for its respective game! p1s save system is very much something that was common in other pc games of the time.. its absolute freedom in managing your timelines is what makes up for the mechanical problems one can encounter while playing. p2 is more tightly strung together and saving has been turned into Part of the meta-plot AND the mindgames the game is playing with you, hand in hand..
on changes from p1 that ive been meaning to type about for ages and kept forgetting: two things abt p1 have stood out to me as especially unexplored: i really felt like p1 artemy wasnt allowed to grieve when it felt like he did have the time to. in p2 he does NOT have the time to grieve for anyone or anything and this is something youre made deeply aware of at all times. but in my p1 haruspex run i had a lot of downtime in the first 3ish days that i spent herb picking, and i remember wondering if artemy is going to be allowed to reflect and embrace his sorrow in the first few calm moments back in his foreign-feeling hometown.. it felt like it never came.. overall his storyline does have him occasionally dealing with grief&change and his conclusion wraps it up neatly, its not a constant Question i was wondering about. it was just abt the first few days truly. this can be explained away by artemy just being...... the kind of guy to not talk abt this sort of things.. but for how interwoven love and familial duty is (AND explicitly mentioned as being his driving force in p1 i adore those lines. i am going to go make a post about them after i type this) i was expecting him to allow himself to feel more :( this isnt so much a critique as much as something that really stood out to me as an (unintentionally?) really sad aspect to artemys character. i feel like p2 addresses his grief much more, hes still not fully expressive of it but we do see more of it..
the other one (im sure theres more ill recall later.) was the fact daniil is invited to town by isidor, but the story makes no elaboration on what their connection is past "colleagues", and then it turns out daniil wasnt really familiar with the nature of the burakhs line of work? and then on top of that theres barely any discussion of him with Isidors Son..???? it just felt...... poorly realized and poorly thought out. it can be explained away in-universe as just the powers that be hastily throwing character connections around As we all did with our pollypockets as kids but for how lifechanging isidors letter was to daniil. it felt like their connection was near nonexistant. he loses everything.. daniil isnt ever mentioned in isidors notes or in the echoes of him shared by the bound.. its so.!!!! im wondering if p2 has either elaborated on this or removed it/fully altered it as a plotpoint
04/20 22.51 - (inbetween)
i plan to make doodle jokes about it once i can but the more i think of the "bachelor whatever" scene the funnier it gets. its so theatrical and overblown and laced with disrespect. artemy just had a deeply scary And emotional moment and now these two are across eachother wasting time wearing barely any protective gear in a house thats so obviously infected and they are Arguing. artemys broad Hospitality is very important for me. But i will not extend it to you. they are on the stage and they are so stupidly rude when near eachother its so funny
04/23 01.11- (inbetween, about to play)
havent made any entries past couple days cause i keep forgetting to note my thoughts + started dissecting the p1 techdemo and im having a ton of fun with it. theres a slight chance the doctors were originally one single composite character in the storys earliest drafts and i keep thinking of it
played the rest of day 5 until ~3am of day 6, reloaded a Bunch of times to time things better and attempt saving aspity. Didnt work ☹ - playtime: 3.1 hours (total: 29.1)
04/23 06.03 - day5 afternoon and night
AUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
SO much happened oh god. need to get my thoughts in order. not a lot ofquests this day but it was like......?? a lot of runaround that was impossibly difficult to get through. i was SO low on herbs and tinctures but thankfully going out to the steppe to checkout the ragi barrow gave me more of any herb that isnt black and blood twyre, of which , i have far too much, cause it is the only type that grows in the parts of town i frequent???? >_< ??? my understanding is the infected and post infected districts have different twyre but i can barely WALK through those and make it out alive . going scavenging is so out of the question . AUUGGHHHHH
i saw murky in town once and then on reloading she was somewheres else w the same dialogue. very silly. we're Really not supposed to miss that dialogue huh..... her saying not being afraid of the plague lets it not get to her is in line with some of the p1 plague lore i think..... i really hope murky is immune or something im. id be completely crushed if she got sick too. maybe she got immunity after surviving the first outbreak.... or maybe the fact she barely remembers losing everyone to it makes her fearless :( auugggggghhhhhhhhh murky baby im so worried about her
i met the prophet while going in to do my #chores and holy shit........
huge fan of this. him saying he lost his hands the same way i lost artemys...... its so cruel that the town has to suffer the same but i Love the reasoning behind it. insane. the abnormality (tumor??) being described as something someone just stuck onto the world. love the sandbox references.. i hope i can plant a huge shovel in it. itd be funny. shovel gang NEVER dies
oooooo mid typing this i put on viktors crucible theme and i really love the title of it....... one of my favorite tracks so far 💃
the theatre chore of the day was tough. rubin saying he wants to leave town and go (back?) into the army was . augh. also he doesnt seem aware of isidors teaching if he doesnt even recall the layer names etc What were you even studying. dumbass
shame the daniil interactions are getting friendly i Really liked the hatred . its nice to see him interested in learning steppe terms.. really liked how artemy cusses then apologizes and daniils like "no please cuss its fine." (pictured). groundbreaking upgrade from their p1 dynamics
the RELIEF that washed over me when i saw this in a stoneyard trashcan . unfortunately i had to reload and lost it but thisgame is so cruel always . making me feel safer over coins in the garbage ....... i played through a chunk of the stoneyard quest with the chemist and viktor? but then had to reload and undo it. it was very interesting??? i love this line from him.
horribly normal guy. the sound the to-be-condemned house makes is terrifying i love it. i really wanted to investigate but im assuming the only way to make it through in that is to shoot the two dudes but i CANT afford a gun im trying so hard to afford medicine . Sorry vicky boy
also artemy calling sticky his informant. obsessed. like its true but thats your tiny son you BETTER buy him a new ds game for his troubles
this too. never ending sarcasm. top 10 cats that can be heard in the entire quarter
i talked to var for the first time as part of that quest (but ended up reloading and undoing it 😔😔) and really liked this line. beloved thats your role!!!!! have you forgotten or are you surprised by it in this context
my aspity dies at midnight :( i tried insanely hard to give her medicine in time but between finding a fingernail and the right medicine i Didnt have the time to, unless i swapped back to before i treated people in the hospital, which was already difficult :( im so upset i loved her. she was there in the intros day12 itd be such a shame if i like miss out on her final advice/judgement auuugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i dropped by the mistresses' cape since. i knew running to the lair/crudesprawl wouldnt help aspity @_@ i had been meaning to check out the tombs.. theyre really great designs and super strange. i love em.. i like that they were given their own dedicated district but the layout of the stoneyard being altered to fit it confuses me endlessly. p1s map is too ingrained into my heart for me to understand whats going on in this map
btw i didnt actually notice that tumor the prophet mentioned earlier cause i was running from plague . saw it now omw to the theatre it is SO insanely cool but im scared what consequences will follow if massive spikes and etc are erected likethat around town..... like can we all still get aroudn that? will that persist in my eventual bachelor playthrough......??
OK ANGEL GIRLIE YOURE LIKE. 4 DAYS OLD??? SURE YOU DID.. i love daniil saying he doesnt believe her AND doesnt care about her at all. god. this games pantomimes feel so different. love that she was allowed to sit on the table thats SO important .
:( ......... not even sure what to make of this..... artemy is the sweetest hearted of the three healers and he Knew that its what guides him in p1.. im just worried for him. he needs therapy also.
i stopped by the trammel to save and catch a boat, i LOVE the new design of it *_* shame she doesnt have th weird kinda-useless gazebo in her backyard anymore.. in p1 the strange circular half-dome room thingy is something thats presented to us as soon as daniil is told weird stories of The Focus, it made me go oh, yulia knows about these? that must be a focus right there. in p2 it being its own entire little Room fits into that concept too..... it looks like the stillwaters observatory (?) too i wonder if theres a correlation......... i still need to drop by there soooo bad.
i went to the broken heart cause artemy wanted to but when i didnt see anyone to talk to i took a swig from oneof the twyrines ihad and THEN noticed daniil sitting there. the music got so wobbly. the dialogue with him was kind of nothing????? itfelt like they were going back and forth with similar dialogue thats just in agreement w eachother. it was entertaining simply because im so happy to see daniil my friend daniil .
he said this out of his random spoken lines and im .....?? who..... and how did you feel about her.....
04/23 06.14 - (inbetween)
WIN FOR MAKING IT HALFWAY THRU THO!!!!!! and my wifey aglaya arrives tomorrow right. unless they changed it cause they hate me . i love her terribly and ive missed running through town w her imposing presence but im NOT excited for whatever bullshit insane quests shes gonna have for me oohhhh god. curious what hers and artemys rship will be like in this version aswell..
havent had any dreams in a bit too. miss those. i really really really love weird dream scenes in stories and i already loved the amount of weird dream content p1 had, everything thats been going on dreamwise so far has been deeply Made For Me
04/23 08.26 (inbetween)
i also stopped by marias while trying to make my stone yard quests work, just in order to save really, and i like the new layout of her house a lot.. the drapery falling everywhere and the intensely scattered books.. it conveys her trying to emulate her moms mania much much clearer than her classic room did (tho. you cannot go wrong with some broken mirrors. in fact im quite sad ive yet to see any working mirrors at all...... i want to look at artemy..)
i was in a hurry so i didnt really check but i wonder if the structure still shows khans absence. marias p1 part of the crucible included an empty room full of toys (specifically a rocking bull/horse and a sword) that took up around 1/3rd - half the building.. and it was empty.. need to check if thats still going on.
the crucible feels a lot different its interesting. p1s felt very open, empty and decorated pretty normal.. the threefold structure was very strange but it wound up feeling like a crucial crown-like part of the town.. but p2s crucible is much taller, feels more heavily guarded (p1s had the walls around it too, but this feels taller and the walkway between wings downstairs is much tighter?) and each room of each wing feels..... weirdly vertical (fitting of their position and polyhedron aspirations..) and both larger and smaller at the same time. Tighter. very closely knit, almost claustrophobic? like every single part of the building has been accounted for and is serving a purpose. theydont really feel like a home someone lives in they look more like parts of a museum display.. thats alive.. and you can talk with the sculpture-subject
04/23 08.51 - (inbetween)
im boiling the pantomime 5 line "im not sure i know how to love." vs p1s "my choices are driven by familial obligation and love. that is reason enough for me." in little pots side by side in my mind ................ why are you less sure of it loverboy.....
one interpretation of that pantomime could be they were rehearsing whatever weird things mark wanted them to say then daniil got too real over how much he dislikes clara. then artemy just overshared unprompted and tanked the mood. i love that mark sent them to bed like. he wants them miserable as part of his weird gay acting experiments in understanding the psyche but not THIS miserable 🙄 we cant have the guy whos about love doubt himself like that. daniil didnt even talk about love st all he only went on about how much he hates clara...... guy whos failing at improv
04/24 08.22 - (inbetween)
this isnt even about p2 but ispent like 15 minutes straight watchingclara and block stand around in p1 haruspexs day10 Waiting for their animations to sync up cause i thought itd make a silly gif and then only got like 2 ALMOST syncs and then midnight struck and my murky got sick + my haruspex died of exhaustion cause this was a completely randomly picked save of my year old run AND i forgot to post the gif i made of the clip i got. horrible. im. the Amount fear that struck my heart when i saw that murky was sick ....
04/26 05:59 - (inbetween, hoping to play later today)
1. i need to draw apple basket with apples on their cheekys literally so bad 2. yesterday i hadsome conversations that reminded me of entries i wanted to make on here:
ive read of several people saying "[p2?] aglaya fell in love too fast" and im sure ill end up sharing that opinion but...... Beloved....... p2 seems more timeloop-y than p1...... whatever i played classic. if shes in love with my temy instantly then its cause hes the same one. p1 aglaya DID fall inlove too fast realistically speaking but if you think about her being this eternally trapped doll. it makes sense that she doesnt know what to do with herself over a sweethearted exhausted guy demonstrating true freedom and acceptance of their puppetstrings. Stares at you
overall im afraid p1 aglaya mightve set too high a standard for what aglaya 2 could be. like she was incomprehensible and evil and hot as hell, her selfawareness was executed in a way ive never seen done before and im unsure if anyone else could replicate. ?? i really liked her and artemys both evil and insane and tragically romantic interactions i really do hope that was kept but im mostly just twiddling my thumbs. wondering how she will have been handled. Scared
another thing on p1-p2 differences! murky!!!! im so glad murky and sticky (and seemingly all the termites so far?) have much further developed storylines + artemy gets to interact w them way more but murky specifically!! the fact she witnessed that artemy killed in self defense seemed like a really important part of p1s plot, until it wasnt because daniil believes artemy instantly and thats how he gets his name cleared, i really really wonder if that even happened in p2 anymore? i remember assuming murkys trust in him after that incident being the reason she goes on to ask him for help etc..... it was wholly insane that this actual baby witnessed death and wasnt terrified of him afterwards p1 was completely insane But in the context of p2 im like. i havent seen which train car she lives in yet??? i want her to stay safe in the lair but Whats Up There!!!!!!!
04/27 19.43 - (inbetween) (torment) (had bad insomnia earlier)
i need to play pathy2 Noew but i have like literally 93 firefox tabs open i need to Deal with them before i can safely play incase something insane happens again and i need to run to the blogs/journals.
04/27 23.38 - (inbetween) (playing soon 😏)
will changeling be able to do hospital/fund chores in her route??? they exclude her from the doctors activites so far. yet her dad co-funds it........
04/28 00.20 - (inbetween)
....... is a new artemy waking in the theatre a semi-callback to him seeing his own corpse in p1. Um
thinking of this in relation to p1. all three healers had a significant rship to their own deaths.. daniil will die shortly. artemy dies. claras graveborn..
4/28 02.40 - PLAYING
I WAS RRIGHT I WOULD NEED TO HAVE THIS ON HAND TO RUN TO MURKY SAID THIS ANDI ALMOST STARTED WEEPING AUUUGGGGHHHHHHHH
4/28 02.42 - PLAYING
BROTHER😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
4/28 04.06 - Playing
taking a 10 min break and checked on this page and suddenly all the images look horribly stretched??? they didnt looklike this earlier??? gonna have to fix that ...???
played morning until 3 pm of day 6, got surrounded by 5 muggers so i had to reload 😐 and its sending me quite a ways behind in order to time things a tiny bit better possibly so i will continute this Tomorrow + idled for a little bit a couple times - playtime: 1hr 42 mins (total: 30.8 hours)
04/28 05.29 - morning and afternoon of day 6
imgonna have to reload and Scramble to re-get half of these interactions arrrgghghhh but i had fun playing tonight :)
murky wanting to be a little family with artemy and sticky has ruined me. i had this spoiled but i did Not at all realize this was just outright in the text. im SO upset im🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 her friend is 100% evilclara im Not excited to meet her.
imso sorry for scuttling around the ragi barrow in circles when artemy was expected for the rite i reallyneeded the herbs!!!!! i didnt expect to get meat out of the rite? it was interesting..
this touch quote makes artemy sound so defeated :( i like the running-on-ish phrasing of it but its feels somehow so sad.
dankosky
on my way back to the lair i saw grace say this by farkhads monument.. really like this quote but not at all sure who its directed towards?? herself? simon maybe......
artemy threatening to make sticky clean the lair if hes too sarcastic isvery silly. i got a dream of taya it was so. O_O glad to see shes doing well shes SO tiny!!!!! i like that in her dialogue she acts her age a bit more than in p1. however it was hard to process her dialogue over the screams?!??!???! it makes more sense to have that be actively audible through the walls now but its horrifying..... very interesting that taya wants to lead the kin back into their old village, i dont remember that being in classic at all? makes the entire olgimsky situation Even worse.
the shared dream situation was very fun!! appreciated the callback to "are we not Men?" :) always wondered what the full context for that achievment quote was
i dont think this plushy was looking in this direction last time i checked???????????????
initially i misread this as like, our wonderbull is actually daniils and we inadvertently stole it but that Wouldnt add up. anyways obsessed. the bulls jsut Left. itsso funny that daniil couldnt keep track of his either.. really hope we get to see that one in his route. the odongh at the barrow said they watch their cattle incredibly closely so im Wondering whats up here......
i had this spoiled too but its SO funny .
foudn these in earth :) love them Really bad!!!!!!!!
at the village i thought the ear was the bull sculpture/rockformations literal ear and climbed up there help. the place looked recently left?? or as if it had frequent visitors.. there were a lot of supplies left and a Ton of herbs very verygood visit. getting the blood from here instead of from oyun like in p1 is a veryinteresting change.. the music that plays on your walk home was REALLY great i was sad when it stopped playing!!!! and panacea time 😏 feels soon???!!?! but i know its going to give me even less of the required blood than p1 did. SIGH
i was Gonna go to the fishing rod for that quest but ended up boating to the stoneyard with a plan to go to theatre -> earth but my entire knots being infected was disastrous. almost died it my reloading came Incredibly close. not a fan.
while in the stoneyard i talked with the kain brothers mid-giving them tinctures, i really enjoyed their dialogue.. viktor being a clockmaker issoso interesting *_* the entire situation with the clocks is so strange. wondering if aglaya can manipulate time for us once she inhibits the cathedral.....?? or perhaps eva..
i didnt screencap it but viktor mentions aeroplanes??? doesnt help the timeframe narrowing-down very much but Hm.
saw clara outside the crucible too she jumpscared me. love her + scared of her!!!! itsfunny that artemy outright says shes scary.
met eva! she is so mysteriously sweet and its a shame to see her silly hostile p1 intro to artemy has been removed.. she seems written muchmuch differently tho im. hm. her new design reflects her p1 desire to be an herb bride much clearer, and it was cool to see her outright say she wants to learn the walk/dance.. but im. deeply wary of it all. im not sure thats my eva anymore?
i really liked these options matching like this.. calling her a flower likethe polyhedron. anguish time
stakh apologized?????!?!?!?! surprising? heres hoping for rubin swag moments to follow. todays chore is Much easier compared to the last ones tho Umm. not a fan of what could follow!!!!!
yulia at the hospitaltheatre!!!!!! she plays cello????!! and has leg pain :( ??? ilove her so much i wish she couldve actually helped us...... her dialogue is so much clearer compared to her p1 dialogue im Not used to that
i have to reload after this @_@ but i really really love going out to the steppe in this game, its as hazylovely as it was in p1. the altered twyre picking method is a bit annoying? or rather. the fly sound is annoying the rest are fine. i wish it couldve been singing/whispering to go with the herbs "speaking" thingy.... but i guess artemys not used to listening.. its a good tradeoff for them being virtually impossible to spot now. in p1 i got good at spotting them but here theres way too many new plants and weeds intoo many varying heights for there to be easy spotting methods.....
im so So scaredto meet murkys friend augh. im feeling notkin and aspitys absence. i gotta brew morethings i dont have water and bottles . it is so difficult to make it through the post-infected districts . love this game Very much sofar but it is like a difficult sewing stitch that i keep having to undo and redo
04/28 05.38 - (inbetween)
georgiy outright said theyre trying to build upwards And over the river i found that really interesting.. the kains are moving up, one of the olgimskys is secretly burrowing underground, and the saburovs seem entirely trapped in their own halls..????
4/29 04.10 - (inbetween)
the more i think of it the more i kind of cannot believe that the climate is “p2 is good and easy and p1 is bad and impossible to play” ?? all of p1 is unfathomably easier than p2s easiest settings .......?
4/30 02.56 - (inbetween)
i was planning to play tonight but im not feeling well enough for it 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 i havent stopped thinking of how murky wants them to be a family im. this game is a complete nightmare but the little sweet moments with the kids make it 100% worth it. ill endure making it through the plague if it means artemy gets to learn to love again via adopting these poor kids........
artemy struggling with loving and being loved is also something i cant stop thinking about like. aaaaaaagggggggggggghhhhhhhhh his love was a monumental part of him in p1 its a massive step in a different direction to change that?? i Really like it so far it induces a really good flavor of anguish.
4/30 09.27 - (inbetween)
while making bread i realized. the role of "lovely woman who will be killed by artemy regardless of his wishes" is kind of already filled for p2 artemy before aglayas arrival. scared. naras being handled horribly + scared for what this means for aglayas "raison d' être vs being loved for the first time" conflict. 😬 thats kind of important to her as a character. and nara is just. the more i think about the herb brides and their mythology the worse it gets.
if p2 artemy isnt responsible for aglayas death and doesnt spend a chunk of his route desperately trying to undo it like in p1 there Will be hostages
5/1 01.46 - (inbetween)
^ still fuming a bit about this realization, i recalled i had a couple more moments that stood out i meant to note here!!!!
the bull interface post-rite being the exact same as the interface for humans was so. 0_0
LOVE WINS HES STILL A THANATOLOGIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE evas impending death and daniil brushing it off is horrifying tho oh god. its interesting that she doesnt welcome death the way she did in p1 (tho oth instances of her still fears death of the plague 🤔), nor the way the p2 herb brides welcome it if she wants to be like them so bad (the brides welcoming death as a plotpoint is a can of worms tho theres. far too may issues with it im bringing it up here for comparison)..... her living forever the same way daniil does on a meta level is also scary
5/2 09.23 - (inbetween)
gottttaaaa set up the links better but ive finally been able to start making those doodles :)
5/3 12.18 - (inbetween, hoping to play today)
one thing about applebasket ive been thinking about, is it a covers a problem i have abt pathy1 wrt something i felt went VERY unexplored/undeveloped. artemy finally has some very rigid ties to bound people!!!! thatre actively still in town!!!!!!! his best best friends!!!! the only person he had in classic was rubin, who hates him for a few days and then he talks to ONCE and then never again i was so disappointed in that. felt like their interactions were so minimal and didnt touch on even half the topics the both of them both as characters and as Sons Of Isidor couldve gotten into. LIKE. THE FACT THEYRE BROTHERS?? KIND OF A HUGE DEAL? i know rubin is tied closely to the other two healers too and had a lot going on but auugghhh it left me feeling like artemys active ties to the town had been severely not thought thru......... applebasket Directly mends this imo
5/3 15.36 - (inbetween)
😐😐 i haveto go back to work but im. aglayas core wanting to be loved problem wouldve paired sooooooooo well with artemys new struggling to let himself love problem. desperately wanting affection and desperately trying to give positive affection. and they both struggle to convey it and accept it from the other. blows everything up
5/3 20.53 - (inbetween)
i think its funny that aglaya and lara had the exact same hair components in p1 and in p2 they now both have their hair in buns....... i dont think laras concept art had any hint of it but ipersonally have been interpreting this concept art as such from the start.. i assumed it wasnt ingame cause it was difficult to implement
5/4 23.04 - (inbetween, about to play)
experiencing the "imgonna play p2 Oh god i have to map out where i gotta go and such" feeling and ooguughththrtrtghghg im becoming more and more aware of the fact the theatre doesnt have a clock. thanks. i suppose if its the heart/"feeling" part of the town vs the cathedrals brain/"thinking" element then itd make sense. but i dont think the cathedral has a savepoint either so. UGH!!!! another thing. i keep thinking of the one executor shadow on day1 that talked of something like, if he gave our actor too much info hed experience some sort of immense amount of harm......
5/5 01.30 - (inbetween)
not able to play tonight *image of noelle about to sob*
re-played through afternoon and evening of day6 - playtime: 1.2 hours (total: 32 hours)
5/5 23.55 - replaying half of day 6
aaiiiieeee i justjust just spoke to The Kids at the station. my blood went cold reading those names. Horrifying. the flowers.. and finally an inquisitor mention, felt like that pre-arrival was talked about way, way more in p1? maybe yulia will talk abt it more i gotta find her later. hmm
🥰🥰 whats that about the inquisition having been disbanded tho hello.. did the army finally get rid of them with the war situation..
the rat prophet cutscene in the rod was so so much....... im a bit obsessed with how this single route spoils a plotpoint you really, really had to work for in classic. i pu tin the WORK to reach claras route and finally learn the saburovs deal and got completely punched with the rat prophet reveal vs here its just........ handing it to you. Interesting
5/6 18.25 - (inbetween)
the kains being called heaven-bound by saburovs current suspect and georgiy outright talking abt that on day 6.. combined with aspity (aauyhhgh) saying that the sky is the enemy of the earth according to steppe beliefs......... Hmm
also did claras epic cathedral poisoning moment just not occur? i realized earlier that that was entire Event that i didnt catch wind of. how is the cathedral gonna be filled with death right before aglayas arrival?!?!?!
5/6 20.06
earlier i opened classic to get some pics of #chairs and being Newly un-used to the little camera bob animation while walking that p2 lacks actually made me a bit dizzy. :\
5/6 20.23 (inbetween(
oh my god wait i noticed this painting in claras room in classic for the first time today, and just now while looking for a p2 day6 screenshot in the middle of typing a different entry i noticed its?? Here?? Kept???? dear god.
5/6 23.12 - (inbetween, about to play(
thinking a lot of simon and isidor as meta aware members of the play that KNOW that their role as The Dead Fathers is pivital to the progression of the plot.. this dialogue:
daniils p1 connection to isidor being something intentionally disconnected from the rest of the more tightly woven narrative And Yet being the sole connective tissue between him and the town. its. these two Knew they were the reasons the healers would gather and accepted their roles of it fully
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